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On Quiddich, Houses and False Fealty

Something I’ve wondered about for quite some time now: do students always align their preference in Quiddich teams based on their house? Would it be a breach of fealty to root for another house even if they are superior in skill? We wear our house colors to matches so in order to root for another house, would we have to go and find robes of their colors so as to show preference?

I really don’t understand the houses anyway. Seems like an intentionally antagonistic means of categorizing people by their basic personality types. Smart students can be in any house just as students with poor marks can be in Ravenclaw and not everyone outside of Gryffindor is a coward. We’re sort of dealt with imposed prejudice by being grouped with people “like us” who are in fact no more our kin than any other student in any other house.

Did you know that statistically, women do not work well together? There is constant completion in the ranks because they share enough similarities just in their gender that the need to stand apart becomes the driving force rather than working together. I would imagine this would be the same for the houses. Outside of Quiddich, the competition exist inside the houses between each student in an attempt to not just be a Ravenclaw, let’s say, but the Ravenclaw.

There are no studies where Hogwarts was not segregated to compare to but it seems a flawed system. If we were to remove Quiddich alone, and forgo that major source for commonality and community, would the houses tear themselves apart rather than engage in different cross-house hostility?

I wasn’t actually paying attention but I hear Slytherin did well. As Ravenclaw and Slytherin are currently locked in a house points war, I suppose I should be disappointed? I’m not.

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I do not understand the 'house' system at all. It is suggested that we all act as one huge thing and yet it is as though we need to beat each other in something. Without Quidditch, there is still the matter of the house cup. Even so, I am still attending so the only thing to do is ignore it and pay matter to yourself. But it seems that one person can 'ruin' things for the 'rest of us' and make 'us' look bad when we are all supposed to be the same. So it is all rather backwards.

Someone once told me if was to give students a sense of community. I think being wizards in training at Hogwarts is enough--dividing that into fourths to make smaller allegiances seems overcomplicated and foolish.

Good to see I'm not the only one with a brain.

Precisely. It is simply some childish to feel the need to set up squalling because one person is a 'Slyherin' and another is a 'Gryffindor' or whatever nonsense. Are you truly going to be proud for that later for your behaviour to make your house 'victorious' in whatever you are invested in? I imagine that this whole house system is supposed to encourage people to do their work but if they really need that to get a few assignments done then I am not sure why they are here. I figured that the offer of going up a year would be enticing enough.

Well, certainly doesn’t inspire me to work harder. And thus far my housemates have not threatened me for my less than satisfactory levels of scholastic performance which is what I imagine is supposed to happen should I be impeding on their dire need to accumulate imaginary points to win a cup that they can’t actually obtain personally.

And a cup that will 'belong' to possibly someone by that time next year. But there is no sense in complaining, I suppose. The system will not change and then, once again, these things won't matter later on in real life. Not that it isn't real life but it's...not getting us to work together. And it is not as though all of us work. Some people have to pull the weight if they want those precious points so badly. I suppose I do not care. As long as I graduate.

I hardly see the point in ignoring things just because they’re too stupid to be changed. It’s the squeaky wheel that gets the oil, is that not the saying? Point out how ridiculous something is enough times and eventually something will be done. And at least there’s the temporary satisfaction of giving it a good burn in the meantime.

Hn, I see. So you want something to truly be done about it. Something like a protest or whatnot, is that what you are implying? That sort of thing would bring attention. But you are pleased enough with this sort of talk for the time being, apparently.

Hogwarts is a temporary annoyance that I will gladly grow out of. But as I have a few more years here, might as well point out all its flaws.

It won't matter in a few years, anyway, unless...hn, I dunno.

Pointing out its flaws versus ignoring it altogether. May as well make some sort of sense, here.

There's more to consider than just oneself. I may be the only one who find it worth mentioning but I'm hardly the only one who thinks this way.

Simply because you believe you are the only one who has that thought doesn't make it wrong. Pointing such things out could give others a different view on things.

I don't believe that. As the amount of responce I've gotten in agreement has proven.

It feels like you keep changing what you are saying or something. I suppose because you did not have the same feedback, before. But, yes, you aren't one with the lone opinion of things on the matter.

[Sherlock goes back and circles "I'm hardly the only one who thinks this way." from several comments earlier]

Do keep up.

How handy is that.

[Now he is no longer a smart guy on the block, anymore! But that's okay, there will be other times.]

I suppose I will try harder.

Very handy, just not often appreciated.

Don’t worry, I don’t think less of you. Not by much.

No matter what you think of me, I'll live well enough. I suspect you would not decide to call me up in ten years to remind me.

I should hope I have more important things to be doing at that point.

It's probably kind of weird, but I don't take sides in Quidditch at all and I only get competitive when I'm playing for Hufflepuff. I think everyone's an equally good player to the next, whether they win or lose, and honestly if you lose you should look at it as a chance for improvement.

Though I guess that could be said about all aspects of school, whether it be study or sports.

Whether Quidditch is your thing or not--of which it is certainly not mine--it's still meant to force your loyalty through house lines.

Perhaps it's simply a matter of like-minded interests. That is to say, we call Ravenclaws intelligent but what is really meant is that they are interested in having a quiet study environment, so it makes sense to group them together. People will always form into groups, the school is simply expediting the matter.

I think I would get along well with Slytherins if given the opportunity to mingle more. And I've met a fair bit of Hufflepuffs who haven't immediately made me want to offer them up to science as test subjects. We're split by houses and then further split by having certain classes only with certain other houses. I find my time to accurately assess individual aptitude is drastically reduced by the amount of time I spend with people who happen to be mostly quiet enough not to bother me.

It's certainly far from perfect, and I wonder if they've ever considered changing it, given what an old system it is. But what might you propose instead?

Well, they could keep the four houses as the names of the four Quiddich teams as that is certainly never leaving Hogwarts. Students could try out for whatever team they want and instead of being sorted by a bonkers hat, they can be assigned dormitories by age. 1st through 2rd years in the current Hufflepuff dorms, 3rd and 4th in Gryffindor, 5th and 6th in Slytherin and 7th in Ravenclaw. One would have far more in common with those of their own age than with those of a similar drive. They are going through the same OWL preps and other considerations at the same time making for unified time and space constraints. It simply makes the most sense.

Perhaps they take the stance that you see your peers in all your classes, and outside of them your elders may be more helpful? As tutors and such.

But frankly that does seem a more workable idea. Even outside of class I spend all my time with people my own age. Of course, not all of them are people I would fancy sharing a dorm with.

Do you honestly enjoy everyone you're rooming with now?

I honestly don't know most of them. They're quiet and easy to ignore.

Honestly half the time it seems like the House system is just in place for the sake of it. Dividing students by their perspectives at the age of eleven and seeing how they develop among people like them is kind of discriminatory when they should be allowed to interact and grow with people that are vastly different from them.

It's not hard to maintain friendships outside of your housemates but really you have to wonder what the founders were thinking. And you're right, sometimes students can be a mixture of things and exist outside of the House dedicated to that one thing. I think that's why Hufflepuff exists; they seem to be a mixture of everything. It might be an easier way to keep up with the student roster.

Personally I don't pay attention to Quidditch or play the game, but I know people prefer to stick to their House teams because House pride is a thing to some I guess. I really don't care for sport but my sister drags me along to games every now and then.

I come from a long line of Slytherin which makes my Ravenclaw sorting a bit of a sore spot for Mummy. Which is ridiculous. As you say, age eleven is hardly a pivotal time in one's development to be the age at which one is categorized by their aptitude. It's archaic. Traditions are fine and well but eventually progress must be made.

It's fine to cheer for another team. I cheered for Gryffindor on Sunday because my friend is the Seeker.

Yes, but you're a Ravenclaw. We weren't playing in which case we are expected to just root for our favorite of the two rivals. When it is Ravenclaw verses Hufflepuff, however, which side will you chose?

I'll be playing in that match, so I'm hoping that it's Ravenclaw that wins.

Well, that's different. You have an invested interest in the team you play for.

Have you always played? Never cared to keep up with the roster. Did you root for Ravenclaw before you were a player on their team and did you want to play for them because you thought they were a good team or did you just wish to play for your house?

No, this is my first year on the team. I think I enjoy the sport as a whole than enjoying a team. I joined because I wanted to give it a go and I only have the one option for which team I play for.

well i dont know about other people but i would rather there werent houses either? but that is because i have friends in all of them and i would like more time to spend with them ~~and sometimes being around the same people all the time is very frustrating~~

also i do not like the way you talked about girls like their so much worse than boys about competitiveness that is not true at all boys are just as bad if not worse you know its why phrases like pissing contests exist

not to mention games like limp biscuit or i dare you to eat this or comparing their wieners or fighting in general!

Girls simply work poorly together. Boys have their own flaws which were not relevant to make a point of in that illustration. Males in nature are competitive and aggressive only in direct attacks on their property or status. In most other instances, they cooperate just fine.

And I would much rather fight a man than a woman. You generally know what you’re in for when you fight a man. A woman is fairly unpredictable.

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